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[Beirdo]

Maintainer: Beirdo
Creator: Gavin Hurlbut, Federico Parodi, Stefano Verna, Nils Maier

Ext. Version: 0.02
Description: The new mass downloader for Firefox.
Extension is compatible to: ( Songbird 1.2 - 1.4.*) ( 2.0 - 2.5.*) ( 2.0b - 2.0.*) ( 3.5 - 3.6.*)

Included locales: bg-BG ca-AD cs-CZ cy-GB da-DK de-DE el-GR en-US es-ES fi-FI fr-FR fy-NL hu-HU it-IT ja-JP ko-KR mk-MK ms-MY nl-NL pl-PL pt-BR pt-PT ro-RO ru-RU sk-SK sl-SI sr-RS sv-SE uk-UA vi-VN zh-CN zh-TW

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This post has been edited by Beirdo: Nov 30 2009, 00:30

[markh]

Welcome!

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[teo]

Formerly known as DownThemAll!

[markh]

Formerly known as DownThemAll!

Well, I suppose it’s a spin-off of it.
@Beirdo, could you enlighten us on the modifications and perhaps invite the translators for dtA to also take care of your extension?

[Beirdo]

Well, I suppose it’s a spin-off of it.
@Beirdo, could you enlighten us on the modifications and perhaps invite the translators for dtA to also take care of your extension?

At this point, it's simply a fork. The person who is driving the project hasn't yet told me of what enhancements he intends for me to make, so I'm still waiting to see. So for now, it's dTa forked and renamed in preparation for future changes... and managed in git rather than svn. If any of the dTa translators wish to help (or just claim the ones they've done for dTa and make sure I didn't mess them up while renaming!) it would certainly be appreciated.

I hope that the project manager (I'm the coder) makes a distinction other than just the name, or he's really wasting his resources to do this fork. GPL is a wonderful thing, but I hope there's a point to creating a parallel package... But he's paying me to work on it, so...

I plan on clarifying ALL of the copyright comments to clearly show that it's a fork, but that will take a bit of time. It remains under the same triple licensing as dTa (GPL/LGPL/MPL), and any code changes I make will also be under said licensing.

[zagadka]

I have registered myself as the Danish translator for this extention, and can see that it is not just a fork of dTa as some strings has been added.

[Beirdo]

I have registered myself as the Danish translator for this extention, and can see that it is not just a fork of dTa as some strings has been added.

Well, to be exact, it's a fork of dTA in SVN, not at the latest release. The new strings are from the recent changes they've made, primarily the landingpage they added. It should match their nightly build

Thanks to all who have signed up already. I hope that my editing to rename didn't break some of the translations... I used vi, but not in UTF-8 mode, so it's quite possible that I messed up a character or two, particularly in non-roman scripts.

[MaierMan]

At this point, it's simply a fork. The person who is driving the project hasn't yet told me of what enhancements he intends for me to make, so I'm still waiting to see. So for now, it's dTa forked and renamed in preparation for future changes... and managed in git rather than svn. If any of the dTa translators wish to help (or just claim the ones they've done for dTa and make sure I didn't mess them up while renaming!) it would certainly be appreciated.

I'm one of the dTa developers (Nils Maier). I cannot recall you ever contacted us?
We would really welcome it if you folks chose to get in touch with us now.
Please see:
Contacts page - http://www.downthemall.net/main/contacts/
Bug tracker - http://bugs.code.downthemall.net/
My personal about/contacts page - http://tn123.ath.cx/about/
We're sorry if you tried to contact us in the past and we didn't answer.

As for the release/feature planing: We use our bug tracker to do so (see the milestones). The feature set for 1.2 should be pretty much fixed by now.
Release planing for 1.3 is not really done yet.

I hope that the project manager (I'm the coder) makes a distinction other than just the name, or he's really wasting his resources to do this fork. GPL is a wonderful thing, but I hope there's a point to creating a parallel package... But he's paying me to work on it, so...

I plan on clarifying ALL of the copyright comments to clearly show that it's a fork, but that will take a bit of time. It remains under the same triple licensing as dTa (GPL/LGPL/MPL), and any code changes I make will also be under said licensing.

Well, I looked into your XPI and you're already violating my copyrights. I guess you didn't mean to and this is merely accidentally.
You cannot claim full copyrights and "original creator" for files you only modified (and where most files only have modifications to the copyright notice itself). These are only derived works and must retain the original copyright no matter if it's MPL or GPL.
If you really intent to "fork" the correct this.

I'm refering to things like:

CODE

* The Original Code is Writeamatic CoThread module.
*
* The Initial Developer of the Original Code is Gavin Hurlbut
* Portions created by the Initial Developer are Copyright (C) 2009
* the Initial Developer. All Rights Reserved.

Where you replaced s/DownThemAll/Writeamatic/ and s/Nils Maier/Gavin Hurlbut/.
Please revert all such changes ASAP before people start to fork from your repository.


We'd obviously like to avoid a fork if possible and work things out another way, i.e. by cooperating.
We will accept quality patches at any time and are open to promote regular contributors into the core development team. That's in fact how I joined the dTa team.

[Beirdo]

Well, I looked into your XPI and you're already violating my copyrights. I guess you didn't mean to and this is merely accidentally.
You cannot claim full copyrights and "original creator" for files you only modified (and where most files only have modifications to the copyright notice itself). These are only derived works and must retain the original copyright no matter if it's MPL or GPL.
If you really intent to "fork" the correct this.

That was done in a flurry of late-night activity and it is high on my list to create proper copyright headers for each file. It is not my intention to take your work away from you, and just after checking in I realized that is how it would look, but I have not had the time to fix those yet.

I will be working on that tonight. In fact, the only reason the XPI exists yet was to work out the translation issues, it has not been released in any other way, and that is one of the things that will be fixed first.

Where you replaced s/DownThemAll/Writeamatic/ and s/Nils Maier/Gavin Hurlbut/.
Please revert all such changes ASAP before people start to fork from your repository.

It will be done shortly, and I will contact you personally to resolve this. I'm sorry I hadn't done so yet, things have been such a flurry of activity.

We'd obviously like to avoid a fork if possible and work things out another way, i.e. by cooperating.
We will accept quality patches at any time and are open to promote regular contributors into the core development team. That's in fact how I joined the dTa team.

Well, the project manager is insisting on having a fork. I don't see the logic to it at all, personally. I'd rather we work directly with you guys, and I keep telling him that.

Any bugs that are reported to us will be fed back to you (with resolution should I be able to fix it), and the translation updates as well, although you'll need to adjust the text in them.

Let's take this offline.

[markh]

@Beirdo & MaierMan: although interesting to read I do not think this forum is the right place to discuss code, copyright or cooperation matters, if you get my point

*EDIT* given the last line in Beirdo’s post you already got the point. *Making mental note to read posts better*.

[Beirdo]

@Beirdo & MaierMan: although interesting to read I do not think this forum is the right place to discuss code, copyright or cooperation matters, if you get my point

*EDIT* given the last line in Beirdo’s post you already got the point. *Making mental note to read posts better*.

Point well taken. Just a quick update. We have come to a mutually acceptable wording for the licensing. I will be uploading an updated version soon (tonight or tomorrow) with that all fixed up. Thanks to MaierMan for his patience.

And thanks to those who have volunteered to translate. Much appreciated.

[urko]

I have found two translation issues:

* sanitize.properties: the file is empty

* landingpage.dtd: lp.localedir=ltr ¿What does this term mean? Should we translate or leave it untouched?

Thanks

urko

[zagadka]

By now two weeks has passed since this fork was created, you should have had more than enough time to do some planning and should be able to reveal at least a little to the world about what is the point of creating a fork.

[Beirdo]

By now two weeks has passed since this fork was created, you should have had more than enough time to do some planning and should be able to reveal at least a little to the world about what is the point of creating a fork.

zagadka:

First off all, I was quite clear earlier. I am just the coder, I do not make the plans. The plans have not been revealed to me, so I can not reveal them to you.

Secondly, I think I was fairly clear that I didn't see any point to forking, but that's what I've been asked to do.

Please tone down the rhetoric. There is no point to it. Once I know what the project manager plans, I will be happy to share it, especially with the developers of DownThemAll! At this point, I have not updated the upload here as I am awaiting replacement artwork from the project manager, and he's not being very fast. I plan on just putting in UGLY solid blue to replace the artwork in the mean time, but I have many projects on the go, and he is not willing to fund more than 5h/week of work, so I have to spread it pretty thin.

[Sonickydon]

Well, at first i thought that this extention was a spin of DTA made by the original team, now that i read the forum topic again i'm not sure if i want to maintain two translations but anyway, el-gr released after quite a long time

[zagadka]

zagadka:

First off all, I was quite clear earlier. I am just the coder, I do not make the plans. The plans have not been revealed to me, so I can not reveal them to you.

Secondly, I think I was fairly clear that I didn't see any point to forking, but that's what I've been asked to do.

Please tone down the rhetoric. There is no point to it. Once I know what the project manager plans, I will be happy to share it, especially with the developers of DownThemAll! At this point, I have not updated the upload here as I am awaiting replacement artwork from the project manager, and he's not being very fast. I plan on just putting in UGLY solid blue to replace the artwork in the mean time, but I have many projects on the go, and he is not willing to fund more than 5h/week of work, so I have to spread it pretty thin.

Under no circumstances am I going to tone down the rhetoric when I just ask to know what is the point of doing this. I know fully well that you are only the coder, nowhere in the question was there anything that prevented anybody else from responding.

Please convey this to the project manager, and don't reply to it yourself:
It sound like you are paying for the coding, while the translators at BabelZilla work for free. So the very least you can do is provide some information about the project they are helping you with.

[Goofy]

Under no circumstances am I going to tone down the rhetoric when I just ask to know what is the point of doing this. I know fully well that you are only the coder, nowhere in the question was there anything that prevented anybody else from responding.

Please convey this to the project manager, and don't reply to it yourself:
It sound like you are paying for the coding, while the translators at BabelZilla work for free. So the very least you can do is provide some information about the project they are helping you with.

Yes we agree with Zagadka, there is nothing wrong with asking details about the project.
Our policy is very simple :
1. We are working for free.
2. We have nothing against extensions aimed at making profit, but we do want their developer to be absolutely clear on what they intend to do and state it here publicly, so that...
3. ... translators are free to choose to translate or not to translate depending of their appreciation of the information given

Goofy

BabelZilla Admin Team

[jojaba]

Found that in miror.dtd :

DownThemAll! Mirror Management

Should'nt it be "Writeamatic Mirror Management" ?

Adding URLs pointing to differnent files will cause a corrupt download, however

Should be "Adding URLs pointing to different files will cause a corrupt download, however ". By the way, what sentence is after this string ?

[DepressiveGuN]

I'm translating that extension to Turkish. But sanitize.properties file is empty, what should I do? Actually, I don't think I can do something, because I cannot save it :D

[DepressiveGuN]

Well, to tell the truth, I translated all strings. I tested it. And is seems it works almost perfect... sanitize.properties file doesn't need to be changed in any way, i think.